Subject	The belt is not made out of rubber, it is made out of fibers
Posted by	Technomancer on December 12, 2009 at 6:08 PM
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In Reply To	Well, science would say posted by RSR on December 12, 2009 at 05:04 PM
Message	The fibers are protected by rubber. If the protection is damaged (cracks) then the belt needs to be replaced. Otherwise, the fibers do not age appreciably without use, and are good for 60k. The Nissan engineers are working off of data. Everyone else is working off of speculation, and calling it "common sense" to avoid having to think about it too much, no offense to Guapo. Reasonable people can disagree, and changing your belt more often won't hurt anything other than your wallet, just like you can change your oil every 50 miles if you like. You have fresher parts/fluids, and run the risk of a botched maintenance job, but other than that, it makes no difference. I just state the fact: the manual says change the belt at 60k, not at any particular age. Do what you like, but don't claim the manual says different. - John
Follow Ups	Cost of 60,000 mile service on TT? - zfunny1 20:48:40 12/11/09 It wasn't the beer talking. - Under_Powered 21:28:16 12/11/09 Okay thanks. Can someone answer original question? (n/m) - zfunny1 21:35:01 12/11/09 Why change the brake fluid? I too, have not heard of - zellamay 21:56:37 12/11/09 Re: Why change the brake fluid? I too, have not heard of - ZLover4Life 22:01:04 12/11/09 there it is! (n/m) - KasbeKZ 23:31:34 12/11/09 Brake fluid needs to be changed at least yearly. - Guapo 22:23:01 12/11/09 OK, so I'm ignorant. There are worse crimes. I'm just - zellamay 22:41:07 12/11/09 doesn't matter what state you live in, fluids need to be - zgene4 22:55:45 12/11/09 I've been doing some reading, and know where I got the idea - zellamay 00:37:22 12/12/09 Brake fluid is hydroscopic it absorbs moisture which>>> - ZUL8TR 06:19:53 12/12/09 Same for power steering fluid with ATF Dexron/Mercon III (n/m) - ZUL8TR 06:13:27 12/12/09 What other maintenance has the car had? (n/m) - Summeronthechain (MN) 21:44:20 12/11/09 UD/OD pulleys, you're paying for labor and belts anyway, - zellamay 22:01:46 12/11/09 ~$575 labor for the 120k - SuparexTT 22:54:30 12/11/09 Damn, sounds like we need to double our price (n/m) - SilverTwin(OH) 16:43:45 12/12/09 That's too expensive - ZXRider(SoCal) 16:55:47 12/12/09 That's too cheap. - Guapo 18:38:26 12/12/09 I'll dig up the invoice - ZXRider(SoCal) 19:29:48 12/12/09 my local shop wanted $550 and i had all the parts. (n/m) - SuparexTT 09:45:19 12/14/09 Do a 120k - Stadsport (PHX) 23:30:22 12/11/09 Where did you get the 4 years? Not in manual. (n/m) - ZUL8TR 06:15:47 12/12/09 ttzd.com > Timing Belt Replacement. (n/m) - Stadsport (PHX) 09:51:15 12/12/09 He is correct. Rubber doesn't last forever. (n/m) - Summeronthechain (MN) 10:05:44 12/12/09 Not to stir this up again, but - Technomancer 11:14:45 12/12/09 yeah, screw common sense :) (n/m) - Guapo 14:22:51 12/12/09 Yep, go with the science. Common sense is often wrong. - Technomancer 16:38:14 12/12/09 Well, science would say - RSR 17:04:05 12/12/09 The belt is not made out of rubber, it is made out of fibers - Technomancer 18:08:35 12/12/09 Granted, the manual does state 60k, and changing the belt - Guapo 18:35:14 12/12/09 sigh - Technomancer 22:14:58 12/12/09 Sorry - Technomancer 22:16:58 12/12/09 "I have no response to you Guapo." - Technomancer 12/12/09 - Guapo 22:43:16 12/12/09 ... - Technomancer 22:59:22 12/12/09 okay, John. (n/m) - Guapo 23:12:39 12/12/09 Your logic has put you in error here actually. - RSR 01:53:07 12/13/09 "ex-physicist" - PennStateZ (VB) 09:13:06 12/13/09 you and PennStateZ are funny - Technomancer 10:52:17 12/13/09 Glad you're amused :) - PennStateZ (VB) 14:15:05 12/13/09 No, you called it correctly, I am a pompous ass - Technomancer 18:30:38 12/13/09 chuckle... - vorpalZ 22:27:43 12/13/09 All those torque specs and such - Technomancer 08:57:55 12/14/09 please, it's a document for service techs, not engineers. - vorpalZ 14:27:14 12/14/09 Re: chuckle... - PennStateZ (VB) 11:00:44 12/14/09 ... - RSR 16:45:49 12/13/09 Well said. - PennStateZ (VB) 11:05:23 12/14/09 ... - RSR 00:37:45 12/13/09 I would agree with changing the belt when it has to come off - Technomancer 18:29:12 12/13/09 I think you just made some assumptions - RSR 21:38:50 12/12/09 Please see my misposted reponse to you under Guapo... (n/m) - Technomancer 22:17:42 12/12/09 Email Bernie - jdubs 00:39:55 12/12/09 Uh... I think zfunny1 is in San Diego. Is Bernie doing work - 240Z FeO2 00:50:55 12/12/09 Sure - if the weather is nice and plane tickets @ comp'ed (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 01:11:18 12/13/09 Member Dave N might be near you, and he's excellent - BigTDogg (MA) 06:32:13 12/12/09 Some other things to do while you are at it.... - jzack 09:59:09 12/12/09
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